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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"I thought TMFMISL only made 7 tackles, as it was alleged by some 'tard on here??'"
Wasn't it drives not tackles as Tad alluded to.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"only made 6 drives. if 'softcock' kirke had done 6 drives he would have been slaughtered on here.
oh, he did and he was. bailey seems to have got away with it. again.'"
Bailey made 31 tackles.
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| no problem with that. but 6 drives? come on, thats not good enough
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| Quote G1="G1"Bailey made 31 tackles.'"
Kirke made 30 (although missed a further 3), and made more meters. I though Kirke put himself about a bit on Friday, though Bailey had much more aggression in his tackling
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| Quote G1="G1"Bailey made 31 tackles.'"
Your comment last week on Kirke making 6 carries.
Quote G1="G1"Still managed 21 tackles. Fair play. I suppose whilst he's shirking the ball and his team mates are doing his defensive work he can keep himself fresh to make some tackles.'"
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| I don't mind Kirke and I think he has a role in the squad but he certainly doesn't dominate any tackle like Kylie, Peacock and even the likes of Ambler can.
Our pack has been intimidating and aggressive during our successful spell, Kirke is neither, I think that's G1's main problem with Kirke.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"no problem with that. but 6 drives? come on, thats not good enough'"
It's not. The whole display wasn't good enough.
However, I think the 31 tackles, and the whole teams tackle count, is telling here. The hit up count for all the forwards appears comparatively low. Perhaps that is because we simply saw much less ball in this game than we did in others? That would explain the low hit up rates and high tackle counts all around.
Don't just look at the numbers in these stats, analyze them in conjunction with the match itself.
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| Quote G1="G1"It's not. The whole display wasn't good enough.
However, I think the 31 tackles, and the whole teams tackle count, is telling here. The hit up count for all the forwards appears comparatively low. Perhaps that is because we simply saw much less ball in this game than we did in others? That would explain the low hit up rates and high tackle counts all around.
Don't just look at the numbers in these stats, analyze them in conjunction with the match itself.'"
Which ever way you look at it, Ambler was far superior to Bailey in every way on Friday, and has been for the last two weeks. The lad is coming along nicely, a shining light in a poor term effort.
Like you though, despite the stats, I don't see a place for Kirke.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"Which ever way you look at it, Ambler was far superior to Bailey in every way on Friday, and has been for the last two weeks. The lad is coming along nicely, a shining light in a poor term effort.
Like you though, despite the stats, I don't see a place for Kirke.'"
Why does Ambler have to be judged against Bailey?
Ambler has been excellent these last two weeks. He's doing enough to cement a place in the 17 IMO. I'd run with 4 props in the 17 and when all are fit those 4 would be Peacock, Kylie, Bailey and Ambler.
There would be no place for Kirke.
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| Quote G1="G1"Why does Ambler have to be judged against Bailey?'"
He doesn't, but it was you whoe were trying to justify Bailey in comparison to all the forwards, saying they were all low. I just stated that if comparing to Ambler over last two weeks there is only one winner.
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| I think their is still plenty of potential in Burgess if he doesn't go and he's only young for a prop.
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| Out of interest how many Grand Final rings does Kirke have?
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