if we revert back to a classic ball playing loose forward, then sutcliffe is perfect for that role. although cuthbo fits that role pretty well as well. i would not be held to ransom by sutcliffe, but it would be a shame to loose him as he still as great potential as an out n out 13

I fear if he stays with us he will become little more than a jack of all trades master of none. Now is the time, if we are to keep him, to back him in a role. It seems he has played every. Postion so far this year bar the front row. A lot have said for a while on here that he could make an excellent back rower which i agree with, i would hate to see him go to the pies and within a year to 18 months become an international standard back row.

I agree completely and posted something similar on the Catalans match thread. The only thing I'd argue with is that I reckon he could easily be international standard in whatever position he chooses if the club and Sutcliffe work hard.

Not been on this forum long enough to know opinions on Sutty but noticed on FB he has come in for a lot of unfair criticism. I agree with your comment that he has potential to be international standard. If you go back to 2015 he was already earmarked as Kev's replacement for the following season. ..or that was what I read. When Kev got injured ,Sutty's partnership with Mags looked very promising . When Kev came back from injury he kept him out of squad which is no mean fete ..then as I recall Mac kept swapping them over until he did possibly one of his best decisions by playing them both..allowing Kev to mentor Sutty during the match ..as well as been guided by Mags. That for me is how it should be with youngsters best way for them to learn n bed them into a squad. Unfortunately then Sutty got badly injured but I remember watching videos of his rehabilitation ..he was putting in lot of hard graft. When he returned he then had to compete with Lilley not helped by constant changes of who should be in halves..then when Golding got injured put as FB where gave good account of himself ...now Moon has gone in halves ..which I assume is where he will be once Keinhorst etc return from injury...leaving Sutty as a utility sub ? I like Mac but injuries aside , he still is not always consistent with selection or even who is on kicking duties...will they continue with Kallum ? I think he does put in the work but if club don't show persistence either would not be surprised if Sutty decides to take offer from another club..

Rumours that Ben Barba is on his way to SL after being sacked by Toulon.

Apparently ST's & Wire are in for him.

Surely we have to make an offer to him?

Why was Barba sacked?

That should come into the equation before making a bid for him.

He was sacked because Mike Ford the coach of Toulon ( who signed Barba) was sacked a month ago, Barba does not fit into the owner of Toulon's plans. Whilst he is not keen to return to Aus or rather he has a 12 match ban pending for testing positive for cocaine ( apparently second time this happened) would want to know if rehabilitation he went on worked..

Surely not much use to Saints or Warrington if it's decided he has to serve his 12 game RL suspension in SL if coming here?

The RFL already said his NRL ban would be honored in the SL so if anyone did sign him he would not play until the end of the 8's

Looks like Johnny Lomax will be leaving Saints at the end of the season. I wonder where he'll end up. With his injury record, he'd be a huge gamble

That's a shame for both parties but it just seems that his body is not up to the rigours of professional rugby league.

I have seen this kid twice now on TV - he is 17 years old and we should sign him now.

He is star of the future - he will England`s hooker & will probably finish up in Australia, but he looks absolute class and we should throw the cheque book at Widnes.

Sign him now to join us next season . Remember you heard it here first.

Two games you say?



Give him a 5yr deal!

Rumour has it Leeds are after hep cahill what do people reckon? Good or bad?

As someonelse already said, if we're in the market for a Widnes forward it should be the young lad Walker who fronted up to Chris Hill at the weekend. Very impressed.

bad, not a bad player maybe signed him 2-3 years ago, but a massive penalty machine make's ferres and JJb look like light weights

stay though, possibly using the marquee allowance.

I have read about Leeds supposedly been in line to sign Cahill for next season, just as there was a "done deal " for Widdop next season. Watching the Warrington v Widnes match yesterday..there was nothing spectacular in his performance that made me jump up n down going yeah GH sign sign..get him on our books now!!!!! If all our players were fit ,on form..we signed him he would end up on loan...On Danny Walker, yeah stood up to Hill..was also very quick of the mark..think forced Ratchford into goal line drop out as well...would definitely prefer him over Cahill but we already have a promising young hooker in U19s who I believe has scored in all matches this season...Harvey Whiteley, finely showing early promise.

Pretty nailed on he's headed for Super League.



Should we pull out all stops for him?



Probs Catalans, but he'd be what we're missing I think.

No if it's just for this season before heading back to the NRL in 2018, he's got a 12 game ban to serve so won't be available until late on and we've given Golding the 1 shirt so should back him as he's done well although admittedly isn't adding too much in attack ATM.

He won't be playing in SL any time soon regardless of who he signs for

McGillivray OOC at end of year?



Think we should make him an offer

yes