Just ignore the ones who cannot see they were beaten by the better side tonight.



They'll recover, only to choke when it matters again.

Want to try that again?

We lost due to Smith-no question.HKR were no better than us but were put were gifted good field position by him.Not to get a penalty in the second half can only be due to a ref with a major bias against us.

Get over it you got beat by a better team on the night. For years now saints have had the rub of the green from refs and you get beat by a team you obviously all expected to walk over and its down to ref bias, ffs just give credit where credit is due

No sour grapes on here then

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You cant just blame the ref for a defeat.



We didnt do enough last night.



First 20 of the second half we were coasting & making very easy yards, we lost a bit of discipline trying to go for the killer punch instead of trying to lay some field position. A couple of repeat sets would have killed the game.



I think most of the team and crowd thought it was only a matter of time.



I thought Hull KR were very average but you have to give them credit for sticking in there and also going for the win when they had a couple of chances to tie the game before the set of six that led to the pen.



That said Smith and lets not forget his linesman in this put in a truely inept performance for this level.

I think most of us accept that HKR deserved the win. Saints were very poor with the ball in hand and must improve, esepcially when Leeds come to town in three weeks.



But as someone who went to the game, the referee was awful. He gave some really tough calls against Saints that ultimately ended up tries. We also had a try disallowed and I have no idea why. It would've been an outstanding try aswell. He just isn't good enough for SL and spoiled a good contest with some controversial calls.







I think they're fairly even overall. Watkins looks a class act, but the others are around the same level as ours. Eastmond is the best of our young contingent and looks a very good player.

Smith didn't have the best of games but then again, when a team does lose, when does a ref have a good game?



We missed Pryce, people say he goes missing, but once he's not playing, you realise how much we miss him.



Hull KR played well last night and they deserved their win. The first 4 times we had the ball we lost it 3 times and the other time we kicked from inside our own 20.



I'd rather us lose games now, rather than at the end of the season.

I agree that Hull KR deserved there win and you cannot take anything away from their team.



My issue is with Ian Smith all the games he,s reffed with us last season and this season so far. As Daniel Anderson highlighted last season he's not up to the job, his decision making and general officiating of the game is way below any of the other refs.

What annoys me most is that alright we can accept a referee having a bad game if bad decisions are evened out between the two teams.



But in Ian Smith he always seems to ref us away from our normal game, its too much of a coincidence that in our last 6 games with him our team performance is always below average and our current success rate is 1 in 3 so far.

Have to say well done to KR last night, however Ian Smith like has already been said is a T**t, so are half the posters from hull that are on here at the mo. Lets see who finishes higher eh lads?

Really?



Who have Leeds got that is so much kop? Didnt see them in either of the GF's last year.



Come on, enlighten us.

Watkins, Hall, Gibson, Smith, Allen to name but a few.



The harsh reality is that when Cunningham, Gidley and Long retire I think you'll find yourselves drifting behind Leeds.



Not that I think that's anyone's fault as such as St Helens is a small town with a relatively small catchment area where as Leeds is a city of some 700,000 people and as the coming seasons go by, club's success will depend on bring quality youngsters and the big city clubs such as Leeds, Hull FC & Hull KR have far bigger player pools to tap into and will therefore be more successful in the [ulong term[/u.



Being a Hull KR fan it makes no odds to me, just calling it as I see it and I see your squad running into problems (in terms of continuing to win silverware) in the coming seasons for the reasons I have stated above.