Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"
Because it happened about 2 years ago. And at the time i said it was a stupid concession to lazy short-term thinking. We have too many overseas players. There is no need for us to have the same amount this season as last. Wigan have too many. '"
No it didn't happen 2 years ago, it happened this year. Both Leeds & Wigan have signed overseas players whilst "circumventing the rules", why aren't you as annoyed at that as you are at this?
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"There are no rules in the operational rules which i would let clubs not abide by in this circumstance. Hull KR have made their bed by trying to use loopholes to squeeze in an extra overseas player by using a passport of convenience. Im not sure why we should be granting dispensation to expedite this. '"
But Hull KR are abiding by the rules. They have effectively sacked 1 player and signed another. What's the problem?
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"You think 10 overseas players, with 6 counting on the quota isnt stockpiling? you think that taking one of the quota whilst injured replacing him with another, then taking that player of the quota and adding the previous one isnt developing a carousel. '"
No because you fundamentally (or deliberately) misunderstand the RFL's statement. By a carousel of players it is meant that they shouldn't be de-registering and re-registering players on a regular basis.
Also which 6 players are those that count on the quota? I'd love to know especially since Dobson is no longer a Hull KR player.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I have never said i would be happy if it was exceptional, you have simply made that up. I have said it is exceptional as in not common, not exceptional in deserving dispensation. '"
Ok Smokey whatever you say. You accept it's exceptional but it's not exceptional. Fair enough lad.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"And again, its a very simply concept. Hull KR have (or are planning on) breaking the rules. They have apparently asked for dispensation to do so which it has been indicated they will be given. '"
Again, and you've been asked this several times without answering it, which rules are Hull KR breaking? If you can't answer it stop insinuating that Hull KR are in breach of RFL Operational Rules.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"If they werent breaking the rules, why would they need to ask for or receive dispensation? '"
Come on Smokey stop being deliberately thick. You were even the first one on this thread to quote the rule FFS.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I have no interest in your nonsense false dichotomy. Your either/or situation simply doesnt apply in the real world. '"
Ok so whether Hull KR have or have not broken the rules does not apply in the real world? Seriously what's wrong with you?
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Things that are uncommon dont by their definition of simply being uncommon deserve discussion of the RFL board with a view to granting dispensation. By being uncommon (or exceptional) it simply means it doesnt happen very often.
Things which do deserve discussion by the RFL board with a view to granting a dispensation would be things which were exceptional as in so far beyond the realms of normality as to represent a situation not covered by the existing rules. '"
I'd agree. Which is why I'm confused by your stance on this. You say it's exceptional, you say it's never happened before, yet you then refuse to accept it should be considered by the board. Kindly point me to the rule that covers a players' delayed receipt of a passport after being granted it, then taking the place of someone else in the team who wishes to return to the team at a later date.
If you can't show me the rule that covers this then you must surely admit it should be discussed by the RFL board as an exceptional circumstance.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"This situation clearly is not one of those. '"
Why not? How does this situation bear resemblence to the RFL statement on the Operational Rule and the rule itself?
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Now i cant be the first one to have taught you this, but to sum up what seems to be your confusion and why you keep bringing up your nonsense false dichotomies, as Robert Plant said, "'Cause you know sometimes words have....Two meanings"'"
Very nice. Yet not in the RFL Operational Rules they don't. The words mean exactly what they say. So please either point out which rule Hull KR are currently breaking or shut up.