Nonsense. We need a thoroughly professional, highly-paid coach who is in it for money and bonuses achieved when he brings success to the club. Plenty of passion will come along with that. The sort of coach who 'will not be in it for the money' will be found coaching in the amateur leagues.



By the way, Ellery 'I'm the daddy' Hanley is not a thoroughly professional coach, just a fine ex-player with minimal coaching ability.

Thnx Jimmy, nice post, good to see you on here.

I'll start by saying that Hanley wouldn't be my choice, just to be clear. I'm well & truly in the 'Get Tony Smith at all costs' camp.



What I will say on the Hanley issue, is that off field stuff, I'd back him to make inroads. He'll ruffle & few feathers do doubt, bruise a few egos, and you'd have to have a strong boardroom to back his decisions, but I do think he'd tackle those issues head on. It's the onfield stuff that would worry me about Ellery, does he have the knowledge of SL to make us a top team, Wigan fans for example think Noble is behind the times (I don't), and he won it 3 years ago. Hanley has been out of top flight RL for so long, does he have the tactical nous needed at this level ?

I'd prefer Tony Smith over Hanley myself, but if the rumours are true and he is due to come in next year, after what I've witnessed over the last 3 games, I just hope he isn't having second thoughts.







I think Hanley wouldn't take any prisoners and there are a lot of ego's there that do need to be bruised, and feathers that need to be ruffled. Obviously the way things are, it will take a lot of work.







That's where the issue lies. I don't think Warrington [ihave[/i a strong boardroom, so if Hanley does come in and wants to sweep out all the crap that currently infests our club, I think he will find opposition from the Ivory Towers brigade.







Noble is a very good coach. Yep, he won it three years ago, but he's also coached in 6 Grand Finals, IIRC. He also has experience in international coaching aswell. He has the ability to get something, but I don't think he will give up on Wigan to come to Warrington.



At the moment, with the way things stand, it's going to be Lowes for the rest of the season, and then a few months of kneeling down on the floor, hands clasped together and praying to the man upstairs that Lowes will bugger off and Tony Smith will take over.

right off I'll admit I'm no fan of the wire but I have seen quite a few of their games and one of the biggest factors in your demise in my opinion is Lee Briers, can someone please tell me what he's given you for the last couple of years? He seems to be fire proof, almost untouchable and always selected, I reckon he's the catalyst for the clubs problems both on and more crucially off the field.

If Tony Smith does come in next season, I think it will take him a good couple of years to rectify things.

If we get the man we want, ie, Smith, then this situation is perfect really. He comes in now, alot of the squad have contracts up at the end of the season, he gets a good look at who he wants to keep, release etc. He's here nice & early for recruitment, which starts June time generally, if there's a capture to be had from the NRL, he can target who he wants, then the UK anti tampering deadline etc, we move into 2010 with a freshened up squad, as we've a fair few off contract this year.



Smith must be an easier target now than he was pre World Cup. He's on his last year of contract, he'd could easily go dual role if needed. And if the RFL did release him, they get some compensation for a man who's going to walk away in a few months anyhow. It didn't look viable pre World Cup, he was the man to deliver it, now, it looks doable (?) to me.

Plus he wouldn't have anything to worry about England wise, as his next game is not going to be until the mid season test with France. Having a club role will also give him chance to scout out players he could use in that test and also the Four Nations at the end of the season.



And with the money invested in the club at the moment, I don't think compensation would be an issue should it come to that.

Couldn't agree more with this title, to many people are laying the blame at the feet of the coach and not on the players.

Players who are under performing, players who simply are not good enough and players who seem to want the coach gone themselves.

Problem is, ther r too many overpaid "has beens"

Worked for Cato

The club has been an underachieving shambles for years. People often talk about the teams of the 80s with primrose and blue tinted glasses but if you look at final league positions we were still as inconsistent as we have been recently.



For as long as I have watched Warrington we have been more often than not mentally weak on the field and inept in the boardroom.



How this long standing culture can be changed, I have no idea.