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| Quote gpartin="gpartin"So by your logic Grimmy a player could potentially be the second or third best scrum half ever and not be world class?'"
He said or at least get into any 17 in the world.
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| Quote gpartin="gpartin"So by your logic Grimmy a player could potentially be the second or third best scrum half ever and not be world class?'"
Not second, you'd get a spot on the bench, but yes potentially third, but how likely is it that the three best ever scrum halves would all be at their peak at the same time? The term "world class" is banded about way too liberally IMO, we have some very good players at the moment, some of them are the best in their country in their position, but none of them would get in a world 17.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy" The term "world class" is banded about way too liberally IMO, we have some very good players at the moment, some of them are the best in their country in their position, but none of them would get in a world 17.'"
All fair enough imo.
Going off your way of judging world class i'd say England have 4(Graham, Peacock, Ellis and Burgess) which again is about right imo.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"He said or at least get into any 17 in the world.'"
He did you're right, missed that bit
I think a lot of players are overlooked because of who they play for rather than how good they are. Some players are immensely talented but the rest of the team let them down. A player can only be creative if the rest of the players are able to read their creativity. I may get shot down in flames for this but I think for example if Brough played for Leeds or Saints he would have been selected for England on a regular basis. Due to strength across the board individual Aussie players have a far greater chance to shine but at the same time have far more competition for their places, swings and roundabouts I suppose.
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| Quote gpartin="gpartin"He did you're right, missed that bit
I think a lot of players are overlooked because of who they play for rather than how good they are. Some players are immensely talented but the rest of the team let them down. A player can only be creative if the rest of the players are able to read their creativity. I may get shot down in flames for this but I think for example if Brough played for Leeds or Saints he would have been selected for England on a regular basis. Due to strength across the board individual Aussie players have a far greater chance to shine but at the same time have far more competition for their places, swings and roundabouts I suppose.'"
Brough would have walked a place in the England side for last years four nations if he'd been at one of the big clubs.
He should be selected at 7 for the mid season French test imo.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Brough would have walked a place in the England side for last years four nations if he'd been at one of the big clubs.
He should be selected at 7 for the mid season French test imo.'"
Agree, I'm surprised he's not been snapped up by Warrington with their seemingly endless funds.
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| why would they want Brough when they have the world class Richie Myler and Galactic class Lee Briers? 
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| my thoughts are that if we dont win we arnt as good as we think
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Not second, you'd get a spot on the bench, but yes potentially third, but how likely is it that the three best ever scrum halves would all be at their peak at the same time? The term "world class" is banded about way too liberally IMO, we have some very good players at the moment, some of them are the best in their country in their position, but none of them would get in a world 17.'"
Agree completely.
Going by that only Burgess and Graham deserve consideration amongst British players IMO.
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| no matter if we are as good as we think we are.... we have improved on last year IMO
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| Quote jameswk="jameswk"no matter if we are as good as we think we are.... we have improved on last year IMO'"
Both on and off the field.
Firstly the business is improving as well as the clubs reputation which was in tatters under Maurice Lindsey.
We have seen big improvements in the marketing of the club and have finally got a club shop that is not an embarassment to the club - Warriors World really did reflect the state of the club prior to Ian Lennagans involvement - dated and unable to deliver what the supporters expect.
Now with a coach appointed by Ian Lennagan we are seeing results on the pitch and we are creating a winning culture, something which takes time.
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| I am confident we will beat Bradford.
I'm sure the players are but just because a team is confident they will beat another team doesn't mean they will get complacent, SW and MM won't let that happen.
On another note - Langley, Scruton world class? Please! Average superleague players. Langley should play prop IMO might be a decent prop if he did.
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