Noble joined Wigan after 10 games of the 2006 season. He'll have been in charge for three seasons' worth of games after the Catalan match, which if we lose that and Stains may well be his last.

well at this rate we'll be battling with bradford and wire for that ninth place then

You say that but surely Wire will come good at some stage (and Stu will be impossible when they do!); they're just having their usual choke at the start of the season and not the end. Therefore could just be battling Bratfut for 11th.

We'll make the play offs easily. I've no doubt about that. But I was really expecting a strong top 4 push this year though and that looks far off. Very disappointing.



It's not just week to week incosistency. Throughout Noble's reign here we've always started games far too slow, especially at the JJB. We always seem to be chasing the game. If we are leading after 20 mins or at half time we rarely let a lead slip because we always finish well.



I still have some sympathy with Noble because they hadn't planned for Barrett to go early and I do believe had he been here we'd be 6 wins 2 defeats ish now because we'd have won all 3 home defeats in the last 20 mins.



But I am losing patience and I am a patient man. I just hope we show up and at the very least compete a week Thursday.

The thing with Nobles teams over the last few years is that we only just win when we do win.



Years ago if we won we would do it in style and we wouldn't get beat at home unless it was Leeds, Saints or Bradford and not by many points at all.

can see what you're saying, but the days of 'years ago' aren't going to come back so easily if at all.

What makes it even more unbearable to stomach was the fact he stated (at the fans forum) that this squad was by far the best he'd put together.

Doesn't this just show Barrett papered over the cracks?



W/L/A stats confirm exactly what I have been saying for some time, that we have never matched our 2006 performance and that we have gone backwards ever since.



Dave

Why?

We're not a good team and dont look good enough to ake the top 8 at the moment. Weve only beaten one team from the top 8 this season so far

How trully great was Barrett then



If he was the sole reason that took us to one game from the GF both seasons..To the e we watch this season.



Greatest signing Ever ?

I dont think people realised how good Trent was for us. Absolutely fantastic player

don't think we relied on him as heavily the 2nd time