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| Quote diesel="diesel"If most people can see the problems..why can't noble?'"
How do we know he cant'? For me the only point definitely down to him is the halting of the defensive line (and it's a massive problem IMO). It's impossible to confirm, for instance, a lack of set plays just because you don't see them executed. Once the player get on the pitch it is up to them to put things into practice.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"How do we know he cant'? For me the only point definitely down to him is the halting of the defensive line (and it's a massive problem IMO). It's impossible to confirm, for instance, a lack of set plays just because you don't see them executed. Once the player get on the pitch it is up to them to put things into practice.'"
The coach buys the players, picks the team and should be teaching the players a workable gameplan and set moves. If the players are not following the gameplan and using the set moves then they are either not being shown properly (coach's fault), not good enough (coach's fault for buying/picking them), or not motivated enough (coach's fault on different levels, either he can't motivate players, can't recognise unmotivated players, or picks players regardless of their motivation).
On a side note if players have any major issues in their game, which many of our players have, then coaching needs to be geared towards the specific issues (dropping the ball etc.), if this doesn't seem to be working then players need to be dropped regardless who they are and how much they get paid, if anything the higher paid players should have even less margin for error. I wonder how quickly Gaz Hock would learn to keep hold of the ball, when to offload and not to give away penalties if he got dropped for a few games?? Credit to Noble for doing this with Tim Smith this year and I hope it carries on but why was Joel Tomkins only considered last year due to injuries, would Ainscough have been given a chance this year if it wasn't for injuries and how much better would he be now if he had been given some game time in place of Colbon every now and then?
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| Quote gpartin="gpartin"The coach buys the players, picks the team and should be teaching the players a workable gameplan and set moves. If the players are not following the gameplan and using the set moves then they are either not being shown properly (coach's fault), not good enough (coach's fault for buying/picking them), or not motivated enough (coach's fault on different levels, either he can't motivate players, can't recognise unmotivated players, or picks players regardless of their motivation).
On a side note if players have any major issues in their game, which many of our players have, then coaching needs to be geared towards the specific issues (dropping the ball etc.), if this doesn't seem to be working then players need to be dropped regardless who they are and how much they get paid, if anything the higher paid players should have even less margin for error. I wonder how quickly Gaz Hock would learn to keep hold of the ball, when to offload and not to give away penalties if he got dropped for a few games?? Credit to Noble for doing this with Tim Smith this year and I hope it carries on but why was Joel Tomkins only considered last year due to injuries, would Ainscough have been given a chance this year if it wasn't for injuries and how much better would he be now if he had been given some game time in place of Colbon every now and then?'"
This is what annoys me the fact some people continue to blame the players deflecting from the coaching issues.
I agree 100% with your post. At the end of the day it is the jobs coach to right the wrongs, in 3 years and several of Nobles players added to the squad and several non Noble players removed from the squad we still seem no nearer to correcting the basic issues that in my opinion are holding us back and not seeing us progress.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"This is what annoys me the fact some people continue to blame the players deflecting from the coaching issues.
I agree 100% with your post. At the end of the day it is the jobs coach to right the wrongs, in 3 years and several of Nobles players added to the squad and several non Noble players removed from the squad we still seem no nearer to correcting the basic issues that in my opinion are holding us back and not seeing us progress.'"
I don't necessarily disagree with you and gpartin but merely wanted to point out that is not purely a case of Nobby not seeing the problem. Of course he is responsible in the way that gpartin posts but what is he supposed to do, drop them all?
I want to make it perfectly clear I am not 100% happy with Nobby in the way that some on here seem to be (RHJ, AJ, etc). However, once the team has been trained all week and then enters the field of play there is little Nobby can do when Hock has multiple brain farts or Roberts wilts under another bomb.
I certainly agree with criticism of our defensive tactics. I am sick of yelling "move up!" at the telly. However, credit where credit's due. He has dropped Mathers and, apparently, Roberts and has stuck with Sam and Ainscough, even if their eventual debuts owed much to serendipity.
Finally, for those that have rightly sussed me out as a fence sitter, well done! 
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Don't Panic
Move up as a line
Don't give them an inch at marker
Run in two's
Make Fielden angry'"
YES!
I'm sure we would all have a lot of things to change if we were coach but the main thing for me is ball retention
If we have 50% of the ball on Friday we will win
I would tape a rugby ball to Gaz Hock's hand for a day as well 
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| what would i change???
defensive structure is a major problem, the way we move up two yards and stop is poor, id have the lads first two steps being a sprint and then pushh on the flanks, similar to bradford away in the playoffs with the famous powerade bottles, push from the outside in and wedge teams down the middle.
our kicking game i would vary it a bit, come to the 4th and 5th I would split tommy,tomkins,richards and o'loughlin and vary the kicking between these 4.
I would definately demand more from our front row so called bigger players, the likes of stu and coley and I would have these running wider at the ruck, and focus on getting our forwards running at teams dangerman tiring them out- for instance every time feka has the ball against saints run at pryce and/or long.
we also need more of a second phase, when we have used our second phase this season we have made more in roads, but this needs to be composed, for instance i would have my half backs, wingers and centres looking for the offload from the forwards, forwards should also be running in twos, pair up second row and prop and vary the ruck plays.
Another major factor is dummy runners and support play, I would make sure both half backs have protection and a variety of moves. Also Id demand that the players support a break in force and don't leave a player looking around for runners.
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| if i was the coach, i think id take the m61, or maybe the m62 depending on traffic
oh my god im so funny
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| Quote jonh="jonh"This is what annoys me the fact some people continue to blame the players deflecting from the coaching issues.
I agree 100% with your post. At the end of the day it is the jobs coach to right the wrongs, in 3 years and several of Nobles players added to the squad and several non Noble players removed from the squad we still seem no nearer to correcting the basic issues that in my opinion are holding us back and not seeing us progress.'"
 I know you think Noble is a big Jobbie Jon but I didn't think you'd put it in print! (or did you mean the Coach's job?  )
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"Score more points than the opposition.'"
Spot on and I reckon you should be the next coach Brett
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