Big call in my opinion, Bradford and Wire both have massive improvement in them and one of them has done something about the poor start to the year, i think the Bulls will be soon to follow there lead, if they do i fully expect both teams to leap frog us if we do nothing, at the moment we are in 9th, if these 2 teams do kick on uinder new managment we are in real danger of not making the 8 and if we do scrape in still stand 0 chance in real terms of being a challenger.

Well greatest [isinging [/iever, no because two years out of three does not compare to the great players we signed who were here for a while such as Hanley.



One of the greatest [iplayers[/i to sign for us? Without a doubt IMO. I agree with Bilko that had he been here this year we would have won the three home games but that would have just been delaying the inevitable in that when he left at the end of this season, the inadequacies of our team and coach would have exposed a year later.



Maybe he would have given IL and Noble the breathing space to get to 2010 (when the big contracts are up) with a few honourable defeats in the play offs placating the fans but what I think he did was save Nobles job for this season by dragging a poorly coached team to over achieve.



My view is we did best when Barrett was here when Noble's game plan was ditched by the players when they were chasing games and with Barrett on board they could catch up and overhaul teams like Wakey, Cas and Hudds. Without him we can't.



He was basically the difference between us and those sides and that was enough toi get us into the play offs and two wins in each playoff series while he was here.



Dave

Even more worrying is Noble's record v Stains.

9 games,

Aggregate score 132-290,

1 win, 1 draw and 7 losses (the win and draw only coming at the end of the season when saints had all but secured league leadership).



Every Wigan coach of past had 2 objectives:

Win the Challenge Cup,

Beat St Helens.

Noble has failed on both of these time and again at Wigan.



I feel it has to be now or never for Noble. Beat Saints on Maunday Thursday or walk.

Agreed Barrett was able to create the closest thing we had to a plan B and now we're so one dimensional its unreal.

Either that or id even settle for a record defeat against st helens if i knew it would get rid of parker!!!! Extreme I know but thats how much i want him gone now....hes making a joke of our great club!!

Never ever

Means to an ends surely.



What would you rather;



Hammering of saints....get rid of nobby....rescue the season....and by the time we go to knowsley road actually have a serious chance of redemption and have our season back on track.



OR



Somehow jam a victory over saints, nobby is suddenly safe again because of the euphoria, but our season slides from disaster to disaster, plus the inevitable hammering against saints at least once or twice before the end of the season anyway!?!?!



Short term loss long term gain. If someone could guarentee me that if we got beat by a certain score nobby would be gone id even turn out over easter in a saints scarf!!

If the Gleeson deal goes through, it shows, that IL is still fully behind Noble.

Lets hope it doesnt.....a further player with an alleged chequered past is all we need!!

Past, in one of the papers he stated he has been off the drink all season.

Or, its exactly what we need and Noble has got his way in relation to squad improvement.