Noble is maintaining mediocrity at Wigan. The whole "he saved us from relegation" thing is quite funny - you would have missed the drop with no coach as long as Millward left, and done so without rinsing a huge proportion of the cap on a spent prop.



I hope he stays, Wigan will win nothing under Noble.

You'll do ok with Nobby, who else could do better

Do we (Wigan RLFC) do anything wrong in your eyes?

The worst part of Noble is he seems the first coach we have ever had who is incapble of understanding the importance of the Wigan v Saints derby. It's importance has meant that being the better team often counted for little when it came to the derby. When we had great teams in the 80's / early 90's, Saints still turned us over on several occasions. In SL, saints were dominant but we regularly turned them over. However, since Noble came it has been

Anderson in particular had Noble in his pocket. He comprehensively outcoached Noble match after match.

Numerous Australian Coaches,



Shaun Edwards



Ellery Hanley

Nobody could do better at getting owned by Saints for years.

As much as it pains me

i have to agree.

Jon you are rational



Now convincing Brett Kenny of anything is a monumental task

What a stupid statement

Sorry, he's excelled against Saints.

Arguing about the pro's and con's of playing style is a seperate issue. It's a personal, subjective opinion. As I have said I sometimes disagree with his decisions - e.g. if he plays Lockers at 6.



What you cannot argue with is Nobby's record in SL both at Wigan and Bradford.



If you honestly think that any coach could have turned us around like he did then I think you need to open your eyes. Teams just don't gain form/systems overnight.



Also given our squad imo 3rd was about the best we could have hoped for in the last 2 years.

Were you happy with the performances, did you think that we closed the gap on the top 2 at all?



For me we did not.



You keep alluding to his record but again do you think when he left Bradford he left them in as strong a position as when he took over? Same question regards GB.



I have stated i am not his biggest fan but i do think he has earned a shot at proving his doubters wrong regards his limitations this year.



I agree he has met his remit with Wigan, he has done what he was brought in to do, now for me as i said earlier he is taking a huge career risk into 2009, there can be no more excuses.

His record with Wigan is not too bad, as said he saved us from relegation, and got us into 2 semi's in the playoffs.



However, the standard of rugby we have played has gone down hill dramatically. To say we play negative rugby is the biggest understatement out there.



We definitly go out not to lose, rather than going out to win.

I like Nobby and have backed him 100% since he's been here. He has turned the club around and turned us into a very competative side again. The rugby is not the most entertaining but nobody would complain if it led us to a trophy. If he had the right quality of player around him i think he'd get us back amoungst the silverware but the salary cap restraints have held him back from building the squad he wants.



On the downside though he seems unwilling to give the youngsters a 'real' shot unless his hand is forced. I really hope he'll use a couple of them this year or we risk losing them.



It's a big year for him.