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| Quote Leyland Warrior="Leyland Warrior"In 11yrs of representing the L.Warriors / NW Counties, i dont recall that he ever once played in that position.
I'm not exactly sure what SW/MM have in mind for him?
Stick him in the centres / on the wing, and Chris would be in his element.
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IMO he is superb...No other way to explain it..He makes an immediate impact and punches well above his weight..i hope he is in the mix for a long time to come.
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| Quote Enicomb="Enicomb"We just needed all our props available and we'd probably have won.'"
To go into the game with only two prop forwards was poor management. Davies &/or Feka should have been in the 17 to add some more size and power to the front row.
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| Quote Leyther_till_death="Leyther_till_death"To go into the game with only two prop forwards was poor management. Davies &/or Feka should have been in the 17 to add some more size and power to the front row.'"
Yeah, i agree.
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| The problem is if Coley or Fielden is not available we don't have an experienced or good enough alternative because Madge will not play Feka.
I am sure Feka does not match up to his standards in several ways but he is still a SL standard player and NOT playing him isn't working either against a big pack.
There was no need to have such an inexperienced pack with Feka in the squad. I am sure the younger players can train the house down compared to Feka but they are not ready to be played in such numbers with only Fielden as a senior front row player.
Having Deacon in the Bench and playing him for 10 mins was pointless. I'd rather have Feka on for 10 mins than do that the trouble is Feka is now probably so not match fit and demotivated he probably isn't an alternative anyway. Well done Wigan in reducing our squad by one senior prop!
Does anyone think Solomona would get into our side? I don't because he's as much as Madge type player as Feka is. He's not that mobile, he looks overweight but he was plenty big enough to tire our lot out. Smith will use what he's got whereas Madge seems to want to stick to his principles even if it means putting too many young players up against an experienced pack. Well experience (or is it pragmatism of playing what you have got?) won out over principle tonight.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Smith will use what he's got whereas Madge seems to want to stick to his principles even if it means putting too many young players up against an experienced pack. Well experience (or is it pragmatism of playing what you have got?) won out over principle tonight.
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It's not good to have a team of over thirties; apparently!
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"The problem is if Coley or Fielden is not available we don't have an experienced or good enough alternative because Madge will not play Feka.
I am sure Feka does not match up to his standards in several ways but he is still a SL standard player and NOT playing him isn't working either against a big pack.
There was no need to have such an inexperienced pack with Feka in the squad. I am sure the younger players can train the house down compared to Feka but they are not ready to be played in such numbers with only Fielden as a senior front row player.
Having Deacon in the Bench and playing him for 10 mins was pointless. I'd rather have Feka on for 10 mins than do that the trouble is Feka is now probably so not match fit and demotivated he probably isn't an alternative anyway. Well done Wigan in reducing our squad by one senior prop!
Does anyone think Solomona would get into our side? I don't because he's as much as Madge type player as Feka is. He's not that mobile, he looks overweight but he was plenty big enough to tire our lot out. Smith will use what he's got whereas Madge seems to want to stick to his principles even if it means putting too many young players up against an experienced pack. Well experience (or is it pragmatism of playing what you have got?) won out over principle tonight.
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Great Post. Solomona is a "luxury" player just like Feka. I think it comes down to coaching styles, Tony Smith has always been a coach that encourages entertainment and attacking styles. Madge prefers a more structured game and is definately a more defence focussed coach.
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| To recognise Fielden as a hard man of Superleague is rapidly becoming the biggest joke ever. I have quoted it first!!! In 2 years he will be playing in the National league because he cannot cut the mustard. He is getting owned by the up and coming youngsters.
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| Firstly, I'll reiterate what alot have already said; to have to face arguably the strongest front row in SL with only 2 recognised props is a seemingly impossible task for any pair, but we still need to accept both Fielden and Prescott were well and truly 'owned' last night.
We need a big, hard, aggressive and even dirty prop to come in and strengthen our front row because at the moment, no team in SL is worried about facing it. Fielden shouldn't be getting a three year deal (as is rumoured) on the back of that performance. I'd be interested to see how well he's performed against good packs, because for all he has improved hugely this year, he still doesn't cut it against big packs enough. Prescott was poor for me, and whether he will ever be good enough I don't know to be honest, but with age on his side and hopefully a top Aussie to learn from next season, he's certainly worth another year.
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| I think someone posted it early in the year "NO Props no POTS" and although we were missing Coley last night I just wonder if the Prop situation means that we will have to wait until next year with some new recruits before we win either the GF or CC.
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| Why cant we get Lima over now?
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| I can't wait for Hock to come back, he will do the business next season and I would have loved him to have played tonight.
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| Quote Steinlager="Steinlager"It amuses me why we go straight to the props.
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What lost Wigan the game last night was a couple of things. First of all Wigan really should have been well infront by around 18 to 20 points in the first half when Warrington spilled the ball constantly. Secondly personally I feel Michael McGuire got the Interchange Bench all wrong. Feka should have been on the bench and to only use Deacon with 8 mins to go was another waste of a bench spot. Wigan will still finish first but there are still many things to work on.
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| Quote EastStandFaithful="EastStandFaithful"Why cant we get Lima over now?'"
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| Jeez, one bad game for Fielden and people want him out of here? This was the only game this season he hasnt been able to cut it. He was pretty much the only prop we had, no offense to Prescott... but he looks more like a second row to me. So it was alot like Fielden v Morley, Carvell and Wood. He had a stormer against St Helens though... I always thought Warrington had the biggest pack in SL and last night proved it, we were just bullied. I think if we had new props come in along side Fielden, that would do him good... he seems to get motivated and fired up with what players he has around him.
Im not gonna say we need to get rid just yet, il save that for the play-offs... I didnt expect much from him that game tbh, not when he is pretty much our only "big" prop. This game was crying for Feka, at least when he comes off the bench he makes an impact... even if its for only 10 mins 
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