Where do I start.



There are lots of threads here and they are totally justified.



This may be a big rant and I will apologise now.



There are so many issues at Wigan and I am not involved. However I do know from my life in business that it doesn't take much to make a difference. If you have ability you can make a difference. We saw this when Brian Noble took over we went back to basics and at the end of the Great Escape Season our defence was hard to breach and everybody was a bit wary of facing us. But for salary cap issues we would have been close to Grand Final matters. (my opinion)



Now we have gone back, whereas in the season above we had players commited and beating the others up now we are weak no method etc. why is this?



We all have opinions we need an additional prop maybe, Mathers no good obviously but more than this how can we drop and continue to drop like we are.



I have married a Wigan girl/woman, no she married me) 31 years ago and my kids born in Billinge is this Wigan??) so my loyalties are here. I am so privileged to see the great great sides of the 80's and 90's etc.



In my view the game has gone back light years since those days, the quality is very poor but the worst situation in my view is the work ethic, the present guys do not work as hard as the team I started watching and without question are no where near them in ability terms.



What we are watching at the moment is tripe, no method, not much commitment and worst of all no will to do it for WIGAN. They are playing (loose term) for the most FAMOUS and in most instances RESPECTED team in The World, so just realise it.



I have been so lucky to see the best and don't mind losing if there is effort.



After all this our game has gone back in standards years and whilst Edddie and Stevo try to bluff us about our game, our standards will slip. Sorry if this has gone away from Wigan and all I want which was the case 3 years ago is a totally committed team to WIGAN. They must realise that playing for Wigan is not like anything else, I know some other supporters will have a go here buit Wigan IS the most famous Rugby Lague team in the world. Maybe not the best but the one known World over.



When Wigan is no good so is Great Britain/England.

You are correct it is a big rant

Good post, sums up a lot of feeling.

Again I can't disagree.

I to am fed up. Not just with Wigan but with the whole standard of the Super League. It's dire - as proved in the world cup. Going backwards.

oh well never mind but at least we all no the mighty saints won



so its not all doom and gloom

Arrrrrrrrrrrrhahahahahaha.

Bilko totally agree we are in process of being decieved by people with ulterior motives.



Going back how did we win the World Cup when Stevo was around??????? Look at the records.

And our International team is safe in the hands of Saints and Leeds players, just watch us go in the World Cup..........................................................oh, yeah, sorry !!!

e.g Leon "The invisible man " Pryce

Paul ' the best fullback in the world' Wellens !!!! just ask Sky Sports 'expert' Stevo.

Agree with the post.

Gone backwards and we are still going backwards.

The 2000 & 2008 world cups have been an embarrassment for GB/England.

Our playing pool of British players has halved since Super League was introduced. The RFL together with the Super League clubs know this, are not bothered about it, nor do they intend doing anything to rectify it.

Prior to Super League our best British wingman was Martin Offiah, now it's Ade Gardner. That's a massive drop in standards.

When Leeds play Manley next weekend their 6,7 & 13 will be McGuire, Burrow & Sinfield. When we played Manley 1987 our 6,7 & 13 were Shaun Edwards, Andy Gregory and Ellery Hanley.

Edwards to McGuire is a massive drop in standards,

Gregory to Burrow is also a massive drop in stanards,

Hanley to Sinfield isn't a massive drop in stanards, its falling off a cliff.

Until the RFL, Super League clubs and their Chairmen care enough to throw their agendas out of the window and put our game first then the downward spiral will continue!

There was a saying about us "Lions lead by Donkeys"

What's changed?